One of the best summaries I have found on male circumcision you may find under
Male Circumcision: How Genital Mutilation Became Standard Practice in the United States.
Reasons why this is bothering me are manifold. You may have noticed in earlier posts that in the course of my life, I had been wondering a lot but also always asking 'why'. From one 'why' you soon jump to the next one, and then the next, and in the end you'll find a complex system where it definitely DOES matter whether one event, as small as it may look, occurs or not. The more with for each person's life unique and tremendously impacting events which all together form societies, and in the end impact us all.
By nature, there are several transitions foreseen in every person's life, all for developing further onto a next stage. If we miss it, or mess it, things go wrong.
All transitions have in common that we humans are extremely sensitive and vulnerable.
A. One option to force human to ignore such stages and undermine next stage development.
B. Another is to use this 'naturally' provided evolution by manipulating sensitive phases for other purposes.
C. Another is to destroy parts of the 'vehicle' itself so that the naturally well prepared vehicle is disabled to serve development.
Relevant stages are roughly:
Until here we have only reached the stage up to max. ten years of childhood, and maybe I'll continue another time, Puberty, the choice of a partner as well as becoming parent are others where we intuitively know but it is mankind itself who interrupts the blessings. The outcome is evident. Relevant fundaments are set though in these early stages as above.
The more I think it over the more complex it gets which is natural. And yet I know there are very few people having time or capability to think all this through. I'd wish there would be definite cross-scientific attempts to bring all influences together. One reason why this will not happen is that also in our system, the relevant evolutionary stages are hindered, as described in option A). next, there are so many taboos and obviously even more rising which stuns me, actually, I thought we were more firmly gone through certain stages. Still, less taboos than in many other systems. I keep on hoping that maybe some individuals might connect relevant factors for themselves. Complex is difficult to be passed on by linear means, as we know.
Now if you read yourself through the link you might find some very interesting statements. Have in mind as I wrote in the post of yesterday, that this describes the obvious outer effects mainly. What is of most relevance is that EVERY physical trauma IS a psychological trauma at the very same time and like bricks and brakes for hindering evolution by development in relevant transition stages as described in 1. - 6. (by now, of course extremely relevant pubicity is not yet even in).
Some interesting passages:
Ever tried discussion with an involuntarily/'religiously' circumcised man? You won't get out relevant answers, as there is no chance for them to protect the 'I' but stating 'all fine', see stages 2.-4. But think about:
How could they state they are missing something like proper senses, which they either don't know or have to bury without the right to mourn?
How could they blame their parents or elders for this implicit violation of the child's integrity, if they never had reached the stage were they were ready to leave the natural symbiosis?
AND the naturally strong, originally creative male sexual energy can be easily abused by re-directing. As done to them they do to others - is a matter of how children are taught to deal with their energies, by role models and words. All people who have no good in mind know about it and, of course, use this knowledge. One generation of perpetrators such always creates a next one.
Until ONE generation starts to stop it.
Again, see in 2.b), we naturally learn about the functions and abilities of 'I', our physiological vehicle, which is simply cut off instead of learning how to deal with it in appropriate and at a point adult, responsible ways.
Easier? The outcome shows a different picture. Abusers teach abuse. The way out is to at least give a next generation better chances. Also would an abused boy child not in the same way be open to continuing the abuse of integrity destruction (as done to him), also would he not need power and control over others in such devastating ways, I bet. As mentioned in many posts before, of course there are many other ways of destroying integrity, especially psychological methods which I consider not better, at All.
This I completely agree with. Another effect, denial always causes 'blocks in the brain'. Based on this mechanism, people can easily be mislead by inducing to repeat the pattern. Thus well trained respectively 'conditioned', a person with such brain can be used like a trigger mechanism. And without having learned how to self-reflecting deal with own urges, you also create clearly unguided missiles.
Please be clear about that there ARE people who escape the mechanisms. Thanks it is so and that there are always some that function differently. Also they have no easy standing. Nevertheless, any breaking of a healthy human being is beyond our duty to watch and care well for this planet.
But what is mostly broken, and that is why my post on the headscarf dummy is so sharp, is the very elementary stage 1. in human development, the natural right for nurture, shelter and protection in early and later childhood by us who had the gift to deliver a child into this world.
As these days almost all cultures are celebrating the re-assembly and victory of life over death, the new growth in nature, in (Hu-) Man, overcoming the time of death and dreadfulness, celebrating the Joy in creation and creativity, around us and inside, it becomes especially interesting that certain religious groups would like to celebrate cutting-off their own offspring, their own boys from the gift of procreational life just as a counter-measure.
Look, if you don't want to believe health then believe the scriptures you are yourself asking: Blood-sacrifice is over. Over for long, long time.
And as I am a mother, one who has fought a lot for the sanity of my but also other children, as a mother I'd say:
Not?
If you don't know it, go and find it. Because it might be that what is sacrificed to an ominous '~Ah' in fact is sacrificed to the own 'Ish'. To name it and to speak it out loud: The Ego. Nothing bad but also nothing godly.
One day the protecting symbol will be removed from Kain. That one who slain his brother and then trembled from fear.
It is anyway not so clear whether the one who placed that mark is the same as the One who gave us Life. Once people knew, then they forgot and started to follow Illusions. Or just violence and abuse.
Love,
Lyn
Male Circumcision: How Genital Mutilation Became Standard Practice in the United States.
Reasons why this is bothering me are manifold. You may have noticed in earlier posts that in the course of my life, I had been wondering a lot but also always asking 'why'. From one 'why' you soon jump to the next one, and then the next, and in the end you'll find a complex system where it definitely DOES matter whether one event, as small as it may look, occurs or not. The more with for each person's life unique and tremendously impacting events which all together form societies, and in the end impact us all.
By nature, there are several transitions foreseen in every person's life, all for developing further onto a next stage. If we miss it, or mess it, things go wrong.
All transitions have in common that we humans are extremely sensitive and vulnerable.
A. One option to force human to ignore such stages and undermine next stage development.
B. Another is to use this 'naturally' provided evolution by manipulating sensitive phases for other purposes.
C. Another is to destroy parts of the 'vehicle' itself so that the naturally well prepared vehicle is disabled to serve development.
Relevant stages are roughly:
- Nurture, shelter and protection in early and later childhood.
- Developing consciousness of an 'I', the personal 'Ego' - the Aramaic 'Ish'.
a) First experience of power, learning by observing role models within 'family',
b) Learning the functions of our 'vehicles' (physicality). - Integration in a wider social group, integration and interaction with other 'I's.
- Individualization. Finding out what makes you special and unique, and playing with it. Playing is very human - it is a experimental, experience-creating training method to find out, e.g. limits.
b) Second experience of power by individual behaviour, learning by observing role models in wider group. - Integration into statutes of wider social system, in bigger systems usually a kind of school.
In West e.g. correlates with dentition of the front teeth.
At this stage, if not happened by role models in family and childhood groups, strictly hierarchical systems are introduced 'officially'. Methods like public favouritism or public blaming work perfectly on the highly sensitive and with all senses open human beings.
Until here we have only reached the stage up to max. ten years of childhood, and maybe I'll continue another time, Puberty, the choice of a partner as well as becoming parent are others where we intuitively know but it is mankind itself who interrupts the blessings. The outcome is evident. Relevant fundaments are set though in these early stages as above.
The more I think it over the more complex it gets which is natural. And yet I know there are very few people having time or capability to think all this through. I'd wish there would be definite cross-scientific attempts to bring all influences together. One reason why this will not happen is that also in our system, the relevant evolutionary stages are hindered, as described in option A). next, there are so many taboos and obviously even more rising which stuns me, actually, I thought we were more firmly gone through certain stages. Still, less taboos than in many other systems. I keep on hoping that maybe some individuals might connect relevant factors for themselves. Complex is difficult to be passed on by linear means, as we know.
Now if you read yourself through the link you might find some very interesting statements. Have in mind as I wrote in the post of yesterday, that this describes the obvious outer effects mainly. What is of most relevance is that EVERY physical trauma IS a psychological trauma at the very same time and like bricks and brakes for hindering evolution by development in relevant transition stages as described in 1. - 6. (by now, of course extremely relevant pubicity is not yet even in).
Some interesting passages:
The foreskin is not a birth defect – it is a normal part of male and female anatomy. The foreskin of the penis starts out growing from the same tissue as the clitoral hood, the skin that covers the clitoris. The gender-neutral term for this bit of skin is the prepuce. The glans (head of the penis) is an internal [!!!] organ, meant to remain covered in the same way our eyelids protect our eyes or our fingernails protect our nail beds.
Ever tried discussion with an involuntarily/'religiously' circumcised man? You won't get out relevant answers, as there is no chance for them to protect the 'I' but stating 'all fine', see stages 2.-4. But think about:
How could they state they are missing something like proper senses, which they either don't know or have to bury without the right to mourn?
How could they blame their parents or elders for this implicit violation of the child's integrity, if they never had reached the stage were they were ready to leave the natural symbiosis?
“The biological sexual act for the circumcised male becomes a satisfaction of an urge and not the refined sensory experience it was meant to be.”6 – C.J. Falliers
AND the naturally strong, originally creative male sexual energy can be easily abused by re-directing. As done to them they do to others - is a matter of how children are taught to deal with their energies, by role models and words. All people who have no good in mind know about it and, of course, use this knowledge. One generation of perpetrators such always creates a next one.
Until ONE generation starts to stop it.
While today we argue over whether male genital cutting affects the sensitivity of the penis, back then there was no question. Often the whole point was to reduce sexual pleasure and therefore sexual temptation.
Again, see in 2.b), we naturally learn about the functions and abilities of 'I', our physiological vehicle, which is simply cut off instead of learning how to deal with it in appropriate and at a point adult, responsible ways.
Easier? The outcome shows a different picture. Abusers teach abuse. The way out is to at least give a next generation better chances. Also would an abused boy child not in the same way be open to continuing the abuse of integrity destruction (as done to him), also would he not need power and control over others in such devastating ways, I bet. As mentioned in many posts before, of course there are many other ways of destroying integrity, especially psychological methods which I consider not better, at All.
There is denial, grief, and anger at the realization of having experienced what in reality was a completely unnecessary violation and loss, a kind of abuse. There is also the pain of realizing what one might have unknowingly done to one’s own child. It’s an emotional issue, to say the least. There is an aspect of “cognitive dissonance” here, whereby the easiest way to deal with the fact that one may be missing something important or have deprived a child of something important, is to discount the foreskin, claiming it’s no big shakes.
This I completely agree with. Another effect, denial always causes 'blocks in the brain'. Based on this mechanism, people can easily be mislead by inducing to repeat the pattern. Thus well trained respectively 'conditioned', a person with such brain can be used like a trigger mechanism. And without having learned how to self-reflecting deal with own urges, you also create clearly unguided missiles.
Please be clear about that there ARE people who escape the mechanisms. Thanks it is so and that there are always some that function differently. Also they have no easy standing. Nevertheless, any breaking of a healthy human being is beyond our duty to watch and care well for this planet.
But what is mostly broken, and that is why my post on the headscarf dummy is so sharp, is the very elementary stage 1. in human development, the natural right for nurture, shelter and protection in early and later childhood by us who had the gift to deliver a child into this world.
WE have a duty to care as we ARE given consciousness, knowledge.
Not to destroy what was given as a gift by LIFE.
As these days almost all cultures are celebrating the re-assembly and victory of life over death, the new growth in nature, in (Hu-) Man, overcoming the time of death and dreadfulness, celebrating the Joy in creation and creativity, around us and inside, it becomes especially interesting that certain religious groups would like to celebrate cutting-off their own offspring, their own boys from the gift of procreational life just as a counter-measure.
Look, if you don't want to believe health then believe the scriptures you are yourself asking: Blood-sacrifice is over. Over for long, long time.
And as I am a mother, one who has fought a lot for the sanity of my but also other children, as a mother I'd say:
Any healthy mother would not allow her child being sacrificed to old, life-hating men.
Any child is the newborn in whose eyes we are innocent and can therefore change.
Any healthy mother would wish a happy and fulfilling future man-woman relation for her Son. Even - yes even - if she had not. Unless she has also lost her in-tuition.
Not?
If you don't know it, go and find it. Because it might be that what is sacrificed to an ominous '~Ah' in fact is sacrificed to the own 'Ish'. To name it and to speak it out loud: The Ego. Nothing bad but also nothing godly.
One day the protecting symbol will be removed from Kain. That one who slain his brother and then trembled from fear.
It is anyway not so clear whether the one who placed that mark is the same as the One who gave us Life. Once people knew, then they forgot and started to follow Illusions. Or just violence and abuse.
Love,
Lyn
